Thursday, June 11, 2015

This Week in CLL: (chronic lymphocytic leukemia) Chemotherapy, News of the Helios Trial, New Drug Approvals and the High Cost of Cancer Medications

The annual humongous meeting of ASCO (American Society of Clinical Oncology) 2015 in Chicago did offer those of us with CLL ( chronic lymphocytic leukemia) a few interesting abstracts and one excellent education session, but this week we wanted to share some news unrelated to ASCO on our website.

This week on the CLL Society website we are posting news and educational material that relates in one way or another to chemotherapy, alone, in combos, and in trials.

We are adding another of my treatment monologues. This time I discuss what really is chemotherapy and how does it fit into the rapidly changing treatment paradigms for CLL. Spoiler alert: The key point here is that everything is changing, very fast. You can find that link here in the treatment section of the CLL Society website.

This is a good basic primer on what chemo is and isn't. The feedback from the earlier readers has been most gratifying. Please let me know what you think.

Just to emphasize the point of change coming, on June 4, 2015 the results of the final analysis of the Phase III RESONATE-2 were released comparing ibrutinib to chlorambucil in over-65 treatment-naïve patients, excluding those patients with deletion 17p. The big news is not that ibrutinib met its primary endpoint of better progression free survival (PFS) and secondary endpoints of better overall survival (OS) and overall response rate (ORR) as we might have predicted that based on the significant difference in the usual historical efficacy of the two drugs tested in prior trials. What is important about this Phase III trial for patients is that it is an important step towards getting FDA approval of ibrutinib as frontline therapy for those of us over 65.  The official press release can be found here and my commentary will be up on the CLL Society website on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 in the news section.

Finally, we share the good news that Quebec, home to my alma mater, McGill University, and often the leader in new therapies in Canada, is the first province to approve the use of obinituzumab (O) or Gazyva in combination with that same chlorambucil (C). On June 2, 2015, there was similar approval for patients in England and Wales. These two approvals on both sides of the Atlantic were based on the trial reported in NEJM in 2014 that demonstrated the superiority of the C-O over C-R (rituximab) or C alone in frailer patients with co-morbidities. That story and links to the original research can be found in the news section on Friday, June 12, 2015.

In our ongoing emphasis to consider clinical trials when making treatment decisions, we fielded another survey to explore search functions that CLL patients would want available in a CLL-specific Clinical Trials Search Engine. We're thankful to those patients and caregivers that took the time to complete the survey at the CLL Society booth during the CLL Patient Education and Empowerment Meeting prior to the CLL Clinical Research Consortium held in San Diego, CA from April 22-23, 2015. You can view those results in the Survey Results and Clinical Trials sections of the website on Friday, also.

One last thing: If you want to share your experience about how the high cost of our cancer meds impacts your care in a way that might make a difference, please contact me to discuss how we can get the word out.

On a personal note, I am still waiting for my final lab results form OSU, so I have nothing new to share.

I don't think I can keep up the pace of 4 new posts a week, but we will try to bring you the latest news and fill in the missing gaps as best and as fast as we can.

Thanks

Stay strong

We are all in this together.

Brian Koffman
Volunteer Medical Director of the CLL Society
Blogger 
E- cancer advocate
Husband, father and grandfather

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Tuesday, December 2, 2014

ASCO 2014: Dr. Susan O'Brien Speculates on Combinations with Ibrutinib to Get a Complete Remission in CLL (chronic lymphocytic leukemia)

In the second part of my audio interview, Dr. O'Brien of MD Anderson today and next year at UCI gives her opinion on one of my favorite topics, what combination of novel agents (and I am only  talking non chemo combos) might and might not do when added to ibrutinib as the backbone of a therapy. Can we get deeper responses? Can we get to cure?

The same speculations, and at this time it is all speculation, could be made for combos with idelalisib or ABT-199 or any of the novel agents in trial. The only way to find out is with research.

Here is just one example of one such interesting trial that was just posted today.

Dr. Susan O'Brien starts by rightly asks us to look at the data separately for the treatment naive group and the relapsed refractory gang.

Those lucky folks who got ibrutinib frontline may be on cruise control for a long long time and if so, why mess with a good thing by adding in another medication

Next please listen carefully as Dr. O'Brien does a good job of reminding us of what exactly we know from trials and what we think we know.  For example we know that obinutuzumab (Gazya) is a much better monoclonal antibody (mAb) than rituximab when used with chlorambucil or Leukeran to tray CLL.  What we think but don't really know is whether it is a better antibody when used in other combos for CLL. As I have reviewed in past posts about glyco-engineeered mAb such as Gazya there is good reason to expect that it is a better killer of B cells, but that has yet to proven.

I also agree with her that much of the benefit from adding a mAB to ibrutinib might be cosmetic, getting us a quicker response by blunting the rise in the absolute lymphocyte count seen early in treatment. When you look at the data further down the line, there is little difference in the already strong outcomes with or without an anti- CD 20 antibody aboard.

This interview will make more sense if you catch the first part of our conversation here.

Finally, another plea for your tolerance. The audio quality is terrible: full of hisses and pops. And don't worry, you have not gone through a time warp. I do repeat a few seconds on the interview just passed the seven minute mark. It's a good thing I don't make a living as a sound engineer.

I hope the quality of the information will allow you to forgive the lousy recording technique.

As I have said before the near future will be full not just of better recordings (made certain by my plan to engage recording professionals at the big congresses), but also I will be posting more focused CLL education.

Please stay tuned over the next few days.

I will need your help with an upcoming survey and will be posting some new kinds of material that I hope you will enjoy and learn from.

Here is Dr. O'Brien


A very busy and productive ASH 2014 is just a few days away. And trust me,  I am bringing a video professional for all my scheduled interviews.

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Saturday, November 29, 2014

ASCO 2014: Dr. Sharman Reviews the Results and Implication of a Single Agent Obinituzumab Poster in CLL (chronic lymphocytic leukemia)

Another audio interview from ASCO 2014, this time with the ubiquitous Dr. Jeff Sharman, who with his work heading up a large national CLL/NHL research group, has brought us several important clinical results that has advanced our understanding of treatment options and provided directions for further research.

Here he is part of a group with Dr. Joe Flynn as the lead author, studying two different doses of the  fully humanized monoclonal type II antibody directed against CD20 (same target used by rituximab and oaftumumab) known as obinituzumab, also known as (AKA) GA101and AKA Gazyva used in this trial as single agent.

The abstract shows a strong trend to a better response with the higher dose, especially as regards complete responses. This is not surprising when we know from a dose escalation trial of rituximab published in 2001 from Dr. Susan O'Brien (mentioned in the interview by Dr. Sharman), that when it comes to antibodies, more is better.

Makes sense based on what we know about how these antibodies work. There are billions of B cells and only so much antibody. When they are all "bound up", there are none left.

There is also research now looking to see if there is similar dose response relation with CAR-T therapy: the more chimeric T-cells, the better, though the story here is much more complicated as it seems CAR-T cells are serial killers.

Dr. Kipps and I also discussed this same paper and the difference between Type 1 and Type 2 antibodies here. Dr. Jennifer Brown discusses earlier research on GA101 at ASH 2013 and the different types of antibodies here. And here are the details of its FDA approval and some of my comments only published only a little more than a year ago.

And if that's not enough background, here is an editorial from Blood 2012.

What a great year it has been for those of us touched by CLL! We are all on a fast moving train and while cure is still a distant light in the tunnel, long lasting low toxicity disease control for most of us may be a whistle stop that we blown past some time without even noticing some time last year.

Here's hoping.

Enjoy the audio interview with Dr. Sharman.


Thank you for putting up with all the pops and hisses again. I promise that they will be a thing of the past once I finish uploading the audio from ASCO 2014 and move forward to ASH 2014 and beyond.

Stay tuned as we have big plans that I will be announcing here soon that will improve our options for education and support for all of us with CLL and related B cell lymphomas in the near future.

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Wednesday, September 10, 2014

Dr. Byrd: "We are at an incredibly exciting time for patients and their families with CLL (chronic lymphocytic leukemia)" Let's all bake a cake of cure.


Cake of Cure

OK team, we have taken the first giant step in this moon shot. We've safely landed in a new world of disease control with no chemo. Now get us home.

The real work is just beginning.

We need potent combos of these new wonder drugs to help us stay in the land of remission forever, get off the daily meds, and maybe, just maybe find our decades from now that we have been cured.

We need more trials, trials that use NO chemotherapy. Trials that use drugs from different pharmaceutical companies. Abbvie links with Infinity Pharmacyclics is already working with TG Therapeutics in a clinical trial.We need more of these alliances that break down commercial barriers for the benefit of the patients.

We need brave patients to volunteer. While all of this sound so positive, let's not forget that when Gilead ran a sensible and necessary trial combining its Syk inhibitor, GS-9973 and its better known PI3k inhibitor, idelalisib or Zydelig (click here for the abstract), they concluded: "Despite promising activity in CLL, the combination of GS-9973 and Idelalisib resulted in an unexpectedly high rate of pneumonitis and resulted in stopping dosing of the combination These data need to be considered when designing future investigations combining inhibitors of B cell receptor signaling."

So we can't take anything for granted. These trials need to be carefully designed and monitored. But they are our best path to a cure.

It demands patients and providers and industry and the FDA all fighting together to "bake a cake of cure" for  CLL.

I like it.

Please enjoy this upbeat and realistic one minute video of my doctor, Dr. John Byrd out of OSU.



More soon on ROR1 including an exciting new trial,  and also on challenging paper on new mathematical modeling of ibrutinib resistance.

Good times indeed. Let's have our cake (vegan of course) and eat it.

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Saturday, September 6, 2014

Want to avoid chemotherapy or taking an expensive medication foreverfor your CLL (chronic lymphocytic leukemia)? I may have a clinicaltrial for you.


METHYLPREDNISOLONE

I and many others have railed against chemotherapy for our CLL. It may give us a long remission, or not.  Your mileage will vary and those of us with anything but the best prognostics can be pretty sure that we will relapse too soon for our liking with a nastier clone. FCR may even cure a few very select low risk patients, though that is yet to be proven. But at what cost?  Possible bone marrow damage and immunosuppression leading to low blood counts, infections, and secondary cancers.

Many of us also worry about the risks and cost of being on a life long medication no matter how targeted and patient friendly it might be. This fear is not so much based on any evidence of a problem (as there are not many problems and the data generally keeps getting better as the years roll along), but more based on the opposite: the lack of evidence with any of the new oral agents about their real long term safety, because no one had been on them for more than five years at this time.

So that is why this trial at UCSD with Dr. Januario Castro deserves our consideration. Besides being the innovator in the research on HDMP, Dr. Castro is a super nice guy. Still, entering any trial is a huge decision and by its very nature is full of unknowns.

A PHASE IB/II STUDY OF OBINUTUZUMAB (GA101) IN COMBINATION WITH HIGH-DOSE METHYLPREDNISOLONE (HDMP) IN CHRONIC LYMPHOCYTIC LEUKEMIA (CLL) PATIENTS. (GA101 & HDMP)

The team of Drs. Kipps and Castro and more recently Choi has been a leader for years in innovative less toxic treatments for CLL. HDMP especially in combination with rituximab or ofatumumab has proven efficacy in all flavors of CLL including those of us with the stubborn 17p deletion. Here is link to an article on HDMP+R in frontline therapy. I quote:" With over 3 years of follow-up median progression-free survival was 30.3 months with only 39% of patients requiring additional therapy, and an overall survival was 96%." Similar results have been published here with HPMP + ofatumumab.

There are reasons to believe that this new trial may do even better. Obinutuzumab is a more potent mAb (monoclonal antibody) than its predecessors.  Remember that when it was combined with chlorambucil it proved superior to ritximab: This abstract from NEJM states: "Treatment with obinutuzumab–chlorambucil, as compared with rituximab–chlorambucil, resulted in prolongation of progression-free survival.Its 20.7% complete response rate in combination with wimpy chlorambucil is also encouraging, so it suggests that adding Gazyva to another cytotoxic agent, in this case HDMP makes good sense.


Not that either HDMP or obinutuzumab are without their risks. HDMP can cause a short term increase chance of serious infections, diabetes, fluid retention and psychiatric issues to mention but a few of the possible adverse events. Gazyva can be associated with scary infusion reactions. One definitely needs a team that has experience with this heavy weight arsenal. USCD certainly does. And the good news is that neither therapy is myelosuppressive and neither should have long term sequelae.

The rap against HDMP, justified or not, is that the remissions have not been that durable. This trial hopes to squash that story. But no one knows. That's why it's called a trial.

So are you interested?

The best news is that unlike other trials for attractive therapies where inclusion criteria may be fairly narrow, this trial welcomes nearly all comers. See below. I especially like: A. Documented refusal to be treated with chemotherapy agents.  Do you think patient advocates may have been a factor in kicking open the gate that wide? Here are some of the inclusion criteria copied from clinical trials.gov.

Laboratory parameters as specified below:
  • Hematologic: Hemoglobin > 8 g/dL (may be post-transfusion); platelet count > 40 x103/mm3 (may be post-transfusion). Absolute neutrophil count > 1.0 109 cells/mm3 (Growth factor use is allowed).
  • Hepatic: Total Bilirubin < 3 x ULN, and ALT and AST < 3 x ULN
  • Renal: Creatinine clearance > 30 mL/min (Calculated according to institutional standards or using Cockcroft-Gault formula. Subjects with requirement of hemodialysis will be excluded).

Subjects can be enrolled and treated under this protocol regardless of their CLL treatment history or number of previous treatments. In addition, subjects with history of allogeneic stem cell transplant can be enrolled and treated unless they have active manifestations of graft vs. host disease (GVHD) or chronic illness or infections that will prevent them from completing the study.

Previously untreated subjects that meet ANY of the following criteria: A. Documented refusal to be treated with chemotherapy agents. B. Subjects that are not candidates for treatment with chemotherapy based on poor performance status (ECOG ≥ 2), advance age (> 65 years), Cumulative Illness Rating Scale (CIRS score) ≥ 6 or cytopenias.

These are extraordinarily liberal rules for eligibility for any trial.

I don't know where HDMP+OB will fit in. No-one does. That's why we need this trial. It is particularly attractive to anyone who want to avoid chemo (who doesn't), is willing to document their reluctance, and does not qualify for other non-chemo trials. But it also should appeal to any of us with 17p deletion or any of us who just want to have six months of non-chemo treatment and then hopefully coast for a long long while.

Finally to be clear, I don't have any personal connection with this trial other than my history of being a patient at UCSD. Moreover, while I believe that for some of us, it is worthy of careful review for the reasons I have detailed, the decision about entering any trial must be personal and cautiously weighed. Thankfully there are growing numbers of non-chemo and chemo options out there.

It's all a gamble: hope as I am doing to ride a TKI (ibrutinib) into the happy ever after sunset or whack the CLL hard monthly for half a year and pray that it is so far gone that it ain't ever coming back.


Sunset at Corona del Mar

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Friday, August 1, 2014

FDA Approval of Idelalisib (or CAL-101 or GS-1101 or now Zydelig) for CLL (chronic lymphocytic leukemia), SLL (small lymphocytic lymphoma) and FL (follicular lymphoma)


ME AND A GIANT TREE
SEQUOIA NATIONAL PARK

It was another good week for those of us with CLL/SLL and our friends with Follicular Lymphoma (FL).

CAL-101 AKA GS-1101 AKA idelalisib AKA Zydelig (See Dr. Sharman's post on the name game and his positive early experience with the drug) was approved last week by the FDA for relapsed CLL patients who would be consider candidates for rituximab (R) and for FL and SLL patients who have had 2 prior therapies.

I quote from the label:

----INDICATIONS AND USAGE---------------------------
Zydelig is a kinase inhibitor indicated for the treatment of patients with:
            􏰅  Relapsed chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CLL), in combination with rituximab, in patients for whom rituximab alone would be considered appropriate therapy due to other co-morbidities. (1.1)
            􏰅  Relapsed follicular B-cell non-Hodgkin lymphoma (FL) in patients who have received at least two prior systemic therapies. (1.2)
            􏰅  Relapsed small lymphocytic lymphoma (SLL) in patients who have received at least two prior systemic therapies. (1.3)
Let’s pause and consider this.
A few things should catch our attention and this post is about parsing this first part of the label..
First idelalisib is approved as mono-therapy for SLL or small lymphocytic lymphoma (and FL), but not CLL. With CLL it is only approved for use with rituximab. Moreover, for CLL we can use it on label if we have relapsed after one treatment, but for SLL (and FL), idelalisib must be at least our third therapy.
But aren’t CLL and SLL essentially the same disease? Though we may be starting to tease apart the biology of this pairing (see this article expectedly from Serbia: (Possible role of CD22, CD79b andCD20 expression in distinguishing small lymphocytic lymphoma from chroniclymphocytic leukemia; Danijela Jovanovic, Predrag Djurdjevic, Nebojsa Andjelkovic, LjubicaZivic Contemp Oncol (Pozn) 2014; 18 (1): 29–33 DOI: 10.5114/wo.2013.38570), in almost all practical circumstances, there is no distinction between CLL and SLL and we treat the two diseases as one entity. Until now, with perhaps the one exception to consider possibly curative surgery and/or local radiation for SLL when it is only found in a single node, treatment was the same whether our malignant B cell clone was strictly nodal or it had spilled over into the peripheral blood and marrow.
Now, if we are going to strictly follow the language on the Zydelig label, we will have for the first time both a different indication for treatment and a different treatment protocol for CLL and SLL.
While this is an interesting point, it is probably of little clinical import as SLL recurring three times as strictly nodal would be rare. Idelalisib might be a good choice, but ironically this is exactly where I personally would want to use it in combination, likely with antibody or even chemotherapy.
Next point.
For those of us with CLL, idelalisib is approved after our first relapse. This is different than the CLL indication for ibrutinib, where we only need to have received a single prior therapy and due perhaps to an adverse reaction or intolerance, are now looking for another treatment options but may not have relapsed. (The label says: IMBRUVICA™ is indicated for the treatment of patients with chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CLL) who have received at least one prior therapy.) Although the most common circumstance leading to a prescription of Imbruvica would still be relapse, it is possible that some of us couldn’t tolerate FCR or Chlorambucil or other treatments and then still needing some sort of therapy for our progressive CLL, but not having relapsed, would now qualify for Imbruvica but not for Zydelig.
This too would be a rare but possible occurrence.
The last item to be considered in the “Indications and Usage” of Zydelig quoting the label again is indicated, for relapsed CLL in combination with Rituximab:
….in patients for whom rituximab alone would be considered appropriate therapy due to other co-morbidities.
Who are these patients? What relapsed patient would ever be offered single agent R? Hard to imagine mono-therapy with rituximab where the response rate as a single agent in relapsed disease is dismal, ironically confirmed in the idelalisib pivotal trial where only 13% of those in the rituximab plus placebo arm got any benefit from treatment.
Before dismissing out of hand this possibility, there are several realities to consider.
First and foremost, the FDA approved the drug based on the trial data it was presented.
The FL and SLL gang were two subpopulations of a larger pool of patients with Non Hodgkins Lymphoma (NHL) that were studied. The data that the FDA used was from that lymphoma patient trial where everyone had to have received at least two prior therapies to be included. Of all those studied, these two subgroups, FL and SLL, responded very nicely to single agent idelalisib, hence the language of the approval.
For the CLL trial group, the phase III study was for patients who were considered too frail based on their co-morbidities (chronic kidney disease and others) for chemo-immunotherapy and thus would be considered for rituximab alone. The results of idelalisb with rituximab versus rituximab alone were, as we all would expect, very impressive.
Are the “Indications and Usage” starting to make sense?  This is the same reasoning that that explains why we have Gazyva only approved for use with Chlorambucil.  That's the way it was studied.


The FDA approvals tend to stick pretty closely to the exact way the drug was studied and thus the pharmaceutical companies tend to reap what they sow.
This is not as crazy as it seems on first blush. It can be dangerous to extrapolate data and the FDA has been burnt too often not be conservative. I am in fact impressed with the speed and the use of the new breakthrough pathways has allowed these important novel drugs to get to market so quickly.
In fact the Zydelig label also adds:

Accelerated approval was granted for FL and SLL based on overall response rate. Improvement in patient survival or disease related symptoms has not been established. Continued approval for these indications may be contingent upon verification of clinical benefit in confirmatory trials.
As to the actual reasons for the pivotal CLL trial design, I discussed with Dr. Sharman and Dr. Furman in this and this past post about the strong trial data that lead to approval for CLL published in the NEJM and presented at ASH 2013. There are times when single agent rituximab might be considered for relapsed disease in the elderly or frail “slow-go” patients that could not tolerate chemo-immunotherapy. While most if not all CLL gurus that you see interviewed here on my blog and quoted elsewhere on the web, would rarely, if ever use single agent R, it is the real world treatment of choice for about 8% of all relapsed patient in the community. Rituximab maintenance which I discussed a few years back in this post, is also frowned upon by most experts, but is used 9% of the time. 
So again, what seems at first to be a strange qualifier on the relapsed CLL indication label, I suspect won’t prove to be much problem to us patients.
Moreover, how the doctors prescribe them and how insurance pays for them is a whole other topic.
Once it is approved, remember that a doctor can use it however he or she wishes.
Which is a good segue to my final subjects for this post.
Before I finish on this very good news, I wanted to share even more good news by means of this link to the Gilead website that will assist any one considering this important new drug. As does Pharmacyclics, Gilead is offering to help commercial and uninsured patients with practical and generous financial support to make this expensive breakthrough drug more affordable. It is also priced a full $1,000 lower per month that ibrutinib, but that doesn’t consider the additional cost of rituximab. Still cheaper is better.
Unfortunately, like all pharmaceutical companies, even if they wanted to, Gilead cannot directly help Medicare Part D patients. They do nice job explaining the financial hit a Medicare patient faces on their website here.

What they can do is support independent non-profit organizations such as LLS that can then offer financial assistance for both eligible federally-insured and privately-insured patients who need help covering out-of-pocket medication costs. On the LLS site, the income must be below 500% of the federal poverty guidelines, but for a family of four, that is anything below $119,250. 

For more details from Gilead and a number to call on how those of us with government insurance might qualify for financial aid, check here: There is of course no guarantee that help will be provided. Resources are limited, but it is certainly worth investigating.

And here is a link to active idelalisib trials. The expanded access program closed for new enrollees in the USA with Zydelig's approval, but will continue for those already enrolled. 
So in the end, good news. We all need more options, and now we have two great oral medications, both with strong help for most of us from their manufacturers to offset the considerable cost.
I will post more soon on how I see Zydelig fitting in, the the black box warnings and its strength and weakness, but for now I am just so happy we have this new weapon in our arsenal.
Thanks to all of you who volunteered for the trials that helped speed its approval. If appropriate, don't forget to consider trials for these two drugs and for several others existing antibodies and TKIs in the pipeline.
It is a good time in the CLL world and it will only continue to get better, quickly.
Only a few days later after this good news, Imbruvica was approved for front line therapy for those of us with 17p deletion. That is giant. More on that important expanded indication in another post soon. 
Much reason to celebrate as we now have two new powerful oral medications to help us live longer and better.

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Thursday, July 17, 2014

ASCO 2014: Dr. Kipps Discusses Targeted Therapy and Obinutuzumab in the Treatment of CLL (chronic lymphocytic leukemia)

In the first brief section of my video interview from ASCO 2014, Dr. Tom Kipps, my personal doctor at UCSD, and mentions the buzz about ibrutinib (IMBRUVICA) at the meeting and then moves on to discuss obinutuzumab (GAZYVA) the new and exciting monoclonal antibody (mAb). He adds to what we learned from Dr. Byrd in this prior post from ASH 2013 and shares his subtly different take on how this powerful new addition to our CLL arsenal works.

My hunch is that it will prove to be much bigger step forward from rituximab (R) than was ofatumumab  (ARZERRA). That much anticipated next generation CD 20 mAb has disappointingly made at best some small incremental improvement for us CLL patients compared to the giant leap that we witnessed just a few years ago when the mother of all CD 20 antibodies, R was added to FC to give us the present "gold standard" of FCR. Ofatumumab does offer a possible helpful option for those of us who can not tolerate R.

Obinutuzumab is clearly proving to be a better antibody. As I covered in this more detailed post and interview from ASH 2013 with Dr. Brown, GAZYA is the first antibody that showed a clear survival advantage over rituximab albeit in combination with chlorambucil.

At ASCO 2014, we learned more. This abstract shows us that as a single agent in untreated patients, obinutuzumab had impressive response rates and even some complete remissions. This almost never happens with the other older CD 20 antibodies. I am pretty excited about all these results.

We already know that adding an antibody to almost any chemo agent makes that chemotherapy work better and explains why chemo-immunotherapy has become the backbone of the present treatment protocols in CLL/SLL and other lymphomas.

What we don't know yet is how this concept of adding a mAb will evolve in the coming era of oral therapies with small molecules such as ibrutinib and idelalisib and later on ABT-199. More on this in future posts.

Here is the first part of my interview with Dr. Kipps.

Listen to the lovely way that he describes how the different type antibodies works.



More to come soon on ROR-1.

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Friday, July 11, 2014

ASH 2013: Dr. Byrd on the New Data on Ibrutinib and Obinutuzumab in CLL (chronic lymphocytic leukemia)

In my final post from the last days of ASH 2013 (lots more to come from ASCO 2014), my doctor, Dr. John Byrd out of Ohio State (OSU) in the third part of our interview discusses the durability of the positive results with ibrutinib and the latest results with obinutuzumab. Here is the referenced ibrutinib trial. For the first part of my interview with Dr. Byrd, click here and for part two here. They are worth reviewing as we covered many of the novel up and coming therapies beyond the usual headline grabbers of ibrutinib and obinutuzumab that are the focus of this last segment of the interview.

Dr. Byrd reminds us that it is the usual suspects are the few unlucky ones who do relapse on ibrutinib, mostly those of us who have been heavily pretreated and/or are 17p deleted.

What is the happy surprise is that the side effects seem to get less common the longer we take Imbruvica and there is a hint (see this NIH research by Dr. Farooqui whom I subsequently interviewed at ASCO 2014), that our immunity improves. Certainly the number of infections diminishes over time.

Dr. Byrd also answers my questions on the exciting monoclonal antibody obinutuzumab (Gazyva) and the new study results presented at ASH.

There are many reasons to be excited about this antibody. Despite the fact that the trial was rigged by choosing the wimpy chlorambucil as its sparing partner, Gazyva is the first therapy when used with chlorambucil to show a survival advantage in the difficult to treat mostly elderly patents who have other medical problems (co-morbidities) such as kidney disease that may take many therapies off the table. This trial  is offering hope where there is a pressing need.

We get into some of the details of how the drug is different from other antibodies. Dr. Byrd discusses how its engineering was specifically directed to make it different and probably better than rituximab. We also discuss its potentially nasty and quick infusion reaction and why that may not be such a bad thing.

Enjoy Dr. Byrd.

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Monday, April 14, 2014

Personal Update on my CLL (Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia): The Good News

It's been a while since I posted on my personal medical news.

Today in Columbus, it was all good. CBC was happily and boringly normal. My Hgb still shows that I am no longer anemic. My ALC (lymphocytes) is 1.4 which is actually a bit high for me, but certainly a comforting level.

My ANC (neutrophils) was healthy. My platelets are a bit higher than normal again, but that is to be expected due my splenectomy. The spleen gleans the aging and decrepit platelets, so counts are higher when it's missing. I will take high platelets any day over the terrors of single digit counts when my ITP was raging. By the way, the accepted wisdom is that the high platelets associated with a splenectomy do not increase the risk of a blood clot, but ironically ITP which ravages the platelets does. You can both hemorrhage and thrombose with the same disease. Seems inflammation is the enemy. I refer you to the 19th century wisdom of Virchow's triad, a trusted nugget carried in the brain of all medical students. 

More on this particular topic soon with some personal revelations, but that is for another post.

My blood chemistries show my liver and kidneys are happy and healthy. The advantages of a vegan lifestyle.

Dr. Byrd would not agree to skipping my next CT scan in three months. The very few late relapses on ibrutinib that he has seen after 24 months (my two year anniversary of living with the TKI magic of ibrutinib aboard will be at 9:30 AM EST on May 7, 2014) are often subtle and begin in the nodes. With my pesky abdominal nodes, that does seem prudent despite my aversion to more diagnostic "radiation therapy". Getting the scan at the newer CT at OSU's Martha Morehouse may cut the rads by as much 60%.

Most relapses occur between 12 and 24 months, so my period of higher risk is thankfully coming to an end. 

Still my clonal instability and my small subclone of 17p deleted cells keeps me forever on alert.

What we really need is a trial for the many patients such as myself that are doing very well on ibrutinib, but are not in a complete remission (CR). How about adding in a PI3K inhibitor such as idelalisib or one of the newer ones following in its footsteps. Hit the cancer clone on two pathways at once. A pincer move. A classic chemotherapy technique, but instead on chemo, we box off the cancer with focused therapies. Next add a potent third generation monoclonal antibody (mAb) such as obinutuzumab once the rascally clonal B cells have been released from the nodes and marrow out into the open spaces of the blood stream where they are easy picking for the antibody. Finally, we add something to mess with Bcl-2, say ABT-199. All this done in a carefully orchestrated and timed dance to maximize efficacy and dodge tumor lysis (TLS) by adding the ABT-199 as the final coup de grâce to make sure the beast will never rise again, but also when the tumor load is low so the risk of TLS is mitigated.

You can't get to cure without first passing by CR and MRD (minimal residual disease) negative.

For me, this is not a theoretical discussion. This is my blood and marrow and proliferative centers in my node that are at stake.

The same applies to many others that are in similar circumstances with ibrutinib and other TKIs.

It may even make long term financial sense in that it may also be a way to limit the duration of therapy with this initial treatment intensification, but with a predicted end of treatment baked into the plan.

I don't want to wait until it's too late so I am hoping such a trial may come to pass, speedily, in my time.  

These and similar concepts are beginning to percolate out there.

What do you think?

I am wondering about bouncing such a plan off the powers that could make it happen. Right now it is a small population that would qualify for such a trial, but our numbers are growing fast.

Please give me your feedback.

"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I am not the only one."

More news, personal and general soon.

I wish a meaningful Passover to all my Jewish friends. May we all leave our personal Pharaohs behind and cross dry shod into the promised land.

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Tuesday, February 4, 2014

ASH 2013: Dr. Jennifer Brown Discusses the New Data on Obinutuzumab (GA-101 or Gazyva)

At ASH 2013, there was much to celebrate for those us with CLL.

This interview was recorded immediately after Dr. Jennifer Brown of Dana Farber had moderated an exciting CLL press conference in that same noisy press room.

While the small molecules that can be taken orally such as ibrutininb, idelalisib, ABT-199 and even the newer IPI-145 and ONO 4059 may have hogged much of the headlines over the last few year in the CLL world, there was important news about a new and better monoclonal antibody or mAb, namely obinutuzumab.

This one, like rituximab and ofatumumab, is directed against CD20, a surface protein found on all B cells, good and bad.

So like its fellow anti-CD20 mAbs, obinutuzumab knocks out all our B cells, leaving us at an increased risk for new infections and reactivation of old ones such as hepatitis B.

A bit of a background on another mAB first.

I have to say after all the excitement following the the approval of the second generation fully humanized CD20 antibody, ofatumumab, I have been disappointed in the results. Its main advantage seems to be for anyone allergic to rituximab, lovingly called "mouse juice" by the thousands of us who have had it dripped into our arms at infusion centers across the world because of its unholy but magic mix of mouse and human proteins (especially strange to think about if you are vegan like me). Despite high doses of pre-medications with steroids and antihistamines, some of us patients just can't get our bodies to stay calm in the presence of the mouse antigen and let the antibody do its important work. That is where ofatumumab has shined. No mouse proteins, so those who could not tolerate "Vitamin R" had an option. But the impressive improvement in efficacy over rituximab that I and many others were hoping for has not really materialized.

Obinutuzumab tells a different story. People are living longer significantly longer as Dr. Brown will detail on camera. The results are clearly better. The bar with rituximab was already set pretty high. Rituximab might be a lousy CLL drug on its own, but as a dancing partner it makes everyone look like a Fred Astaire (or Ginger Rogers). Its addition to FC forming the "gold standard" of FCR was the first time that any therapy was shown to prolong survival in CLL.

Dr. Brown of Harvard now gives us even better news on obinutuzumab.

But first we review how it was engineered to get these strong results and explains why being the first type 2 anti-CD20 antibody is so important to its efficacy.

And she discusses the management of the higher risk of infusion reactions. Please remember that although these new antibodies have no murine proteins, they can still cause rather severe infusion reactions, precisely because the bind so strongly to our B cells and are such potent killers.

Here is Dr. Jennifer Brown:



Remember too that this drug is already approved for CLL. From the package insert: in combination with chlorambucil, is indicated for the treatment of patients with previously untreated chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CLL).

As I have reviewed in a prior post, this is a very limited indication, and much of its benefit would be expected to come in its use with other more potent combinations than with chlorambucil and for patients who have relapsed or who are refractory to other therapies including other mAbs. I would hope that it appropriate use off label is not rebuffed by the payers.

I expect soon to see a growing number of trials mixing and matching the new TKIs with obinutuzumab to get us that elusive CR. We need more trials. To get to our ultimate goal, a cure, we must first get to and pass CR, and most of the TKIs are leaving stalled on 3rd base with some persistent measurable disease. These new oral wonder drugs still need a teammate to get us home to a cure, and obinutuzumab is a very strong candidate to play that role.

That is the future I want. Rational non-chemo combinations edging us closer to a cure. It can't come soon enough. But we need more creative trials and more brave risk takers to make them happen.

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